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【TED演讲】中国如何应对污染和气候变化 How China is (and isn't) fighting pollution and

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即使有15亿人口,但人均二氧化碳排放量仅为富裕西方国家的一小部分。中国的污染和二氧化碳的排放的主要来源是生产其他国家的消费品。那么这些污染是生产者的错,还是那些将生产能力转移并消费这些产品的人的错呢?如果像美国、加拿大和英国这样富裕的西方国家

 
 
 
 
KaisoArt
The American president doesn't even believe in global warming.
 
美国总统甚至不相信全球变暖。
 
Wiztard
It's called climate change now. He believes in climate change but he agrees with 97% of published science papers that the sun determines 99.75% of our climate and there is little we can do to change it.
 
现在叫气候变化。他相信气候变化,但他同意97%已发表的科学论文,即太阳决定了99.75%的气候变化,要改变气候我们能做的很少。
 
Quaotic
You are a bit misinformed. Climate change is the result of global warming. It is not a change of description or title. And human caused global warming has been a conclusion of nearly all (more than 97%, closer to 99.5%) of scientific research. I will accept the findings of scientists who are experts in their field over the rantings of the mindless idiot that is your president.
 
你有点被误导了。气候变化就是全球变暖的结果。这不是改变描述方法和称呼头衔。而人类造成的全球变暖几乎是所有科学研究的结论(大于97%接近99.5%)。我会接受科学家的发现,他们是这个领域的专家,而不是你们这个无头无脑的总统白痴的咆哮。
 
Zoe Phin
Garden Larder 
"I will accept the findings of scientists who are experts in their field"
 
Yet you believe in fake "consensus" papers that have never been published by any actual climate scientists - only activists posing as scientists.
 
“我会接受科学家们的发现,他们在自己的领域是专家”。然而,你相信那些从来没有被真正的气候科学家发表的虚假“一致”论文——他们仅仅是假扮科学家的积极分子。
 
郑智林
@Zoe PhinYou're quite the conspiracy theorist eh.
 
你真是一个阴谋论者。
 
Zoe Phin
郑智林 No, I just looked at who wrote the "consensus" papers, and see that they're not climate scientists. There is not one paper written by a climate scientist. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
 
不,我只是看到那些写“一致”论文的人,发现他们并不是科学家。没有一篇是气候科学家写的。没有,零个。
 
Dirty Poul
Zoe Phin "There is not one paper written by a climate scientist. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada."
Are you saying that climate scientiest are incredibly lazy since they've never written any papers or that climate scientiest don't exist because no climate scientist have ever written a paper?
 
“没有一篇是气候科学家写的。没有,零个。”你是说气候科学家都懒得出奇因为他们从没写过任何论文或者说气候科学家不存在,因为没有气候科学家写论文?
 
Dirty Poul
Zoe Phin Climate scientiests don't tend to write papers on concensus. Just like how astrophysicsts don't tend to write papers on concensus or how AI researchers don't write papers on the consensus of AI research. Those are two subjects I happen to have read a few of such papers, and they were written by historians and philosophers asking the scientific community and comparing it to the past in the case of historians, or contemplating on what it means going forward in the case of the philosopher. It's part of what other people do. Like this paper on the scientific consensus of climate change by a historian of science who is asking how we can know we're right about climate change: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-65058-6_2
 
气候科学家不倾向于写气候一致性的论文,就像天体天文学家不倾向于写任何一致性的论文。或者AI研究者不会写关于AI研究的一致性论文。这两个学科我恰巧都读过一些这样的论文,它们是由历史学家和哲学家写的询问科学界并将其与历史学家的过去比较,或者思考在哲学家的例子中这意味着什么。这是其他人做的一部分。就像这篇关于气候变化的科学共识论文,它是由一位科学历史学家写的,他问我们如何知道自己对气候变化的看法是正确的。
 
Dirty Poul 
Funny, that paper you linked was originally published in Discover Magazine as an Op-Ed article. It was never peer-reviewed. I guess 14 years later it was finally "peer-reviewed" and published in Climate Modelling journal. What a fitting journal name for what she's doing: Modelling a fantasy reality.
 
有意思,你链接的这篇论文最初发表在《发现》杂志的专栏部分。它从来没有经过同行评议。我猜想14年后它最终经过同行评议并发表在气候模型杂志上。对于她正在做的事情,这是一个多么合适的期刊名称:模拟一个幻想的现实。
 
Headstash Music
+Wiztard Global Warming is a component of climate change. Climate Change is still called climate change. Can you please provide sources for your  claims that 97% of published science papers say 99.75% of GW is caused by the sun, cause that sounds kind of, you know, bullshitty, in the most utter sense of the word. If you don't think we can change the environment, go into a garage, start a car, and as you're dying, think how quickly the 'climate' changed and try to extrapolate that on a global level. Or, if you like living, just try looking out over a major city and tell me where that stinky yellow haze comes from, and why its over cities and not forests or parkland. Yeah nearly 7,000,000,000 of us sucking from this planet and we don't affect the environment at all........open your eyes pal.
 
全球变暖是气候变化的组成部分。气候变化还是叫气候变化。你声称97%已发表论文说99.75%的全球变暖是太阳造成的,你能提供来源么?因为那听起来,你知道,极端的说,很扯淡。如果你认为我们不能改变环境,去车库,启动一辆车,当你快要死的时候,想想“气候”变化的有多快然后试着在全球范围内推测。或者,如果你想活着,试着看看一个大城市,然后告诉我那恶臭的黄色雾霾是怎么来的,为什么它在城市上空而不是森林和公园绿地。是的,将近70亿人从地球吸取养分而我们不影响环境......睁开你的眼睛,朋友。
 
MrPhonebreaker
Trump has a mental disability when dealing with reality.
 
特朗普在面对现实时有心理障碍。
 
Kong Kong
becoz america is a democracy and more americans don't believe in climate change than chinese, or more than almost anyone else. proves that democracy works very well
 
因为美国是一个民主国家,很多美国人不像中国人那么相信气候变化,甚至比其他任何人都不相信。证明民主运作良好。
 
leftaroundabout
@Zoe Phinwell, if you're coming from the mindset that it's all a big conspiracy then you probably won't believe any consensus survey, peer-reviewed or otherwise. But anyway it doesn't really matter how many scientists believe in AGW, what matters is the evidence that some of these scientists have brought forth. Because again: climate scientists don't do meta-studies, they do science on climate and that science points clearly in the direction that humans do have a very significant contribution right now.
These papers most certainly go through peer-review, but more importantly they have methodology sections that allow independent confirmation (or falsification) of the results. So, if you disbelieve a paper, re-build the experiment / simulation / etc. and show what concretely is wrong or inapplicable. Don't just say it's wrong because your favourite politician or internet blogger told you it's all rubbish.
 
如果你认为这是一个大阴谋,那么你可能不会相信任何共识调查,同行评审或者其他。但是无论如何有多少科学家相信全球变暖这不重要,重要的是这些科学家提供的证据。又因为气候科学家不做元研究,他们只做气候研究,科学清楚的指出,人类现在对气候变化做出了非常重要的贡献。
 
这些论文肯定要经过同行评审,更重要的是他们有方法论部分,允许对结果进行独立确认(或伪造)。如果你不相信一篇论文,那就重新建立实验/模拟等等,然后具体展示那儿错了或者不合适。不要因为你喜欢的政治家或者网络博主告诉你那都是垃圾,你就说他们都错了。
 
Earth Story
@Zoe PhinWhether you are a skeptic of climate science or not, don't you think it's at least a good idea to put some merit in looking for solutions JUST in case it is a problem? Why do you put more importance in the "victory" of nitpicking syntax and minor details over what could or couldn't have a seriously massive impact on you, your family, your potential children, your parents, friends, and everybody you love rather than possibly being right. That's the world today, nobody can be wrong. 
 
Also, I bet you don't have a clue what other incoming events are going to cause global destruction in the very near future, do you?
 
无论你是不是对气候科学有所怀疑,难道你不认为发挥一些优势寻找解决方法至少是个好主意么,万一有问题呢?为什么你更看重挑剔语法和细枝末节上的“胜利”,而不是那些可能会对你和你的家人,你未来的孩子,你的父母,朋友和你爱的任何人有重大影响的东西呢,和那些可能是对的东西。这才是今天的世界,每个人都不能错。
还有,我打赌你不知道什么活动会在不久的将来造成全球毁灭,对么?
 
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Hikkari
Glad China is doing something whereas US's president doesn't even believe in climate change lol
 
很高兴中国在做着一些事,但是美国总统甚至不相信气候变化。
 
gnomes mcgee
This is just propoganda. 
The power china produces is used mostly for production factories.
The avrage chineese man lives in homes powered by coal.
 
这些都是宣传。中国生产的能源主要用于生产企业。平常人住在靠煤发电的房子里。
 
Eloy
My home hasn't been powered by coal in my life, and I was born in a 5th-tier city in China. Just FYI.
 
我的家里从来没用过煤炭发电,我出生在中国的一个五线城市。仅供参考。
 
HOI4 Field Marshal Johnny Sins
you'll be shocked and saddened to hear that even Trump's no. one enemy, North Korea believes that climate change is a real issue.
 
当听到特朗普都说不时,你会感到震惊和难过。一个敌人——朝鲜相信气候变化确实是一个问题。
 
High school Hottie
All the green power-make options weren't invented by china :). .............And China emits 10 times the CO2 into the atmosphere that the usa does - this CO2 then goes into the sea to create acid that kills the planets plankton tiny sea plants that make 66% of the oxygen you (yes you) breathe right now ... you moron !! :).
 
所有绿色能源的制造都不是中国发明的,中国排放的大气中的二氧化碳是美国的10倍,这些二氧化碳进入海洋形成酸性物质杀死了浮游生物和你(就是你)正在呼吸的66%的氧气制造者——海洋小植物.......你个笨蛋!!!
 
Hansheng Zhou
Did Everyone forgot Obama and China already?
 
每个人都忘记了奥巴马和中国了么?
 
Kana Unigame
@High school HottieUSA's CO2 production per capita is higher than China :)...... And whoever invented green energy doesn't matter - who's actually putting to use does. and if you've (yes you) been actually watching the video, you'd know that China's leading in Hydropower, wind power, and solar energy ... you moron !! :)
 
美国的人均二氧化碳排放量高于中国......谁发明了绿色能源不重要——重要的是谁真的在用。如果你(就是你)真的观看了视频,你就会知道中国在水力发电、风力发电和太阳能方面领先......你个笨蛋!!!
 
And-yS
High school Hottie I don’t think what you said is fair. China simply has more people, and US has 5 times more carbon emission than world average. But it is the fact that China is willing to change that matter. US isn’t willing to change due to the elites’ investment in personal automobile and heavy industry.
 
我不认为你说的是公平的。中国只是人口多,而美国的碳排放量是世界平均水平的5倍。但事实是中国愿意改变现状而美国不愿意,仅仅因为精英们对个人汽车和重工业的投资。
 
Justinian the Great
Us has been the leading in environment meanwhile china has not changed.
 
美国是环境的先驱同时中国并没有改变。
 
Justinian the Great
@Kana Unigame source? Maybe you can get that from totally not censored source from china.
 
来源?或许你可以从完全未经审查的中国资源里获得。
 
Justinian the Great
@And-ySBs once again, china has been the no.1 polluter in the planet while US has been the one leading in saving it. Go to china and please compare the conditions to US and you'll see your facts. US companies has been recycling while china has never change.
 
再说,中国是全球第一污染国而美国一直是挽救环境的先驱。去中国然后比较下美国的环境你就会看到事实。美国公司一直在循环利用而中国从未改变。
 
Justinian the Great
@And-ySalgore once said that ice in northpole will melt in 2015, its been 4 years since that has passed.
 
曾说北极的冰层会在2015年融化,现在已经过去4年了。
 
Michael Priest
Just remember that China and India are the number 1 producers of pollution still. America has lowered emissions and pushes toward a cleaner environment regardless of what the president thinks. You are just brainwashed.
 
只需要记住中国和印度仍然是污染制造者第一名。不管总统怎么想,美国已经在降低排放,并朝着一个更洁净的环境迈进。你们被洗脑了。
 
Michael Priest
And-yS that is the biggest lie ever to say that the US is doing “nothing” about climate change.
 
这是美国在气候变化上“无所作为”的最大谎言。
 
And-yS
@Michael Priestnever said US is doing nothing. Some of the best mind in the field is US scientist. But it’s kind of hard when ur president just named a person that think CO2 will make the world a better place
 
不要说美国什么也没做。这个领域里最聪明人之一是美国科学家。但是会很艰难,因为你们的总统刚刚任命了一位认为二氧化碳会让世界更美好的人。
 
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Adrien Debernardi
Also, don't forget that China has more than 1.5 billion inhabitants. China may be the 1st polluter on the globe, when you take that per inhabitant, US and other countries (for example EU countries) are awfully bad polluters. Go ahead China, lead the way since the US wont.
 
还有,别忘了中国有15亿人口。中国或许是全球第一污染国,当你们按照人均,美国和其他国家(比如欧盟国家)是更可怕的污染者。去吧中国,带路吧,因为美国不会。
 
Niza Laporre
Even if you take the 1.5 billion people, each individually has an average of a CO2 footprint a tiny fraction of those in rich western countries.  The main source of pollution in China and CO2 emissions is to produce things that other countries consume.  Should this pollution be the fault of producers (China) or those that off-shored this production capacity and consume these goods?  If rich western countries like USA or Canada or UK made its own crap, their emissions would be much higher.
 
即使有15亿人口,但人均二氧化碳排放量仅为富裕西方国家的一小部分。中国的污染和二氧化碳的排放的主要来源是生产其他国家的消费品。那么这些污染是生产者的错,还是那些将生产能力转移并消费这些产品的人的错呢?如果像美国、加拿大和英国这样富裕的西方国家自己制造垃圾,他们的排放会高得多。
 
Daniel
That's because the average citizen can't afford things like cars to cause pollution.
 
那是因为普通市民买不起汽车之类的东西去造成污染。
 
qpopuiuzmnmb
+Daniel uh really...China's Middle class is booming and are more than capable of funding for private transportation. But they don't need/want it. China's public transportation innovation is off the charts, able to move people through cities quickly and efficiently.
 
说真的,中国的中产阶级在蓬勃发展,他们完全有能力支付私人交通工具。但是他们不需要/不想。中国的公共交通发展好极了,能快速高效的让人们穿梭于城市。
 
de0509
You have the numbers to support your idea?
 
有人支持你的观点么?
 
Zoe Phin
Adrien Debernardi 
co2 is not pollution, dummy, and it doesn't cause warming.
 
二氧化碳不是污染,笨蛋,也不会造成气候污染。
 
Adrien Debernardi
@Zoe Phinyeah. And because earth is flat, it flows on the side anyways so why bother
 
是的,因为地球是平的,所以无论如何它都是一边流动的,这就是为什么,大哥。
 
de0509
@zoephinActually it does. A lot of science has been done. Not all gases have the same ability to store heat energy. They have done many controlled experiments on this heat storing ability and found that among the few gases that are markedly able to store heat are methane and sulphur oxides, and CO2 as well.
 
它做到了。已经做了很多的科学实验。不是所有的气体都有相同的储存热量的能力。他们做了很多关于热量储存的可控实验,发现甲烷和硫氧化物还有二氧化碳是少数几种明显能够储存热量的气体。
 
And if that doesnt make you think, at least think of how the human has evolved to live in a certain kind of environment. For example in industries even Oxygen has to be a certain level between 19% and 24% Oxygen to be ok. Even the life giving oxygen will poison us if it is too high. What is that? a range of +/-2%. That is so small a range, its insane if you think about it. Change oxygen by 2% and it harms us. Now CO2 has changed by 33%. Old science books are now obsolete, because that 0.03% CO2 in the books are now wrong. This is definitely not ok.
 
如果这些还不能让你思考,至少想想人类是如何进化来生活在某个特定环境的。
比如,在工业中氧气含量必须达到一定水平,在19%-26%之间才是合适的。即使是给人生命的氧气,含量过高也会毒害我们。那是什么?+/-2%的范围。这个范围太小了,你肯定觉得疯了。改变2%的氧气含量就会对我们有害。现在二氧化碳改变了33%。旧的科学书籍已被淘汰,因为里面0.03%的二氧化碳在现在是错的。这绝对不行。
 
It affects the plants too. Plants "eat" CO2. How can it be bad to have more of it? Well, new studies has found a link between reduced nutrients in our food due to CO2. No, theres no mysterious magic thing in this one. Plants simply are able to make glucose(read: carb/starch) better with more CO2 while the nutrients stay the same. The nutrients simply get diluted amongst the high calorie food. We need to consume more calories to obtain the same amount of nutrients.
 
它也同样影响了植物。植物“吃”二氧化碳。多吃一点怎么会不好呢?好吧,新的研究发现食物中营养的减少和二氧化碳有关。不,这并不是什么神秘的事。植物只是用更多的二氧化碳使合成的葡萄糖(碳水化合物/淀粉)更好同时营养保持不变。在高卡路里食物中的营养会被稀释。要获得相同数量的营养我们需要消耗更多的卡路里。
 
I doubt the human body is evolving fast enough to account for the changes we have introduced in the environment. Perhaps you may think differently and if so, so be it. I have delivered these info, and now onto you to decide to believe it or not.
 
我怀疑人类身体进化的速度之快是否足以解释我们在环境中引入的改变。或许你的想法不同,如果是,那就随他去吧。我已经发表了这些信息,现在就由你决定是否相信。
 
Source: worked in HSE once, but now i do plant maintenance.
 
来源:曾任职于健康与安全执行局,但是现在我做工厂维护。
 
Abhay Sharma
If every citizen of the world would live like an average American it would need 5 earths, And Europeans are doing far better than Americans in countering the climate change but the climate change would hugely affect the US the more warmer temperature leads to a more severe hurricane which can also reach the trump tower to take him away with wind.
 
如果世界上每个公民都像普通美国人那样生活那就需要5个地球,在抵抗气候变化上欧洲人要比美国人做的好得多,但是气候变化会对美国产生巨大影响,温度越高,导致飓风越大,甚至能吹到特朗普大厦把他刮走。
 
The Drive man
Daniel yep my cousin lives in Shenzhen  China and despite the fact that his earns over 200k dollars per year he still barely buys his first 
100 m squared little cozy house(which costs him about 150 million, in dollars). I bet other average person surely couldn’t buy a house of his own, not to mention the car
 
我的堂兄在中国深圳,尽管事实上他一年收入20万美金他才勉强买了他的第一座100平的舒适小房子(这花费了他1.5亿),我确信普通人买不了自己的房子更别说车子了。
 
John Lu
CO2, in essence, is not nearly as destructive as some of the other chemical species in the atmosphere like ones that cause radical reactions to damage the Ozone Layer, since it is a naturally existing component of air, but what an excess amount of CO2 can do is disrupt the equilibrium of the atmospheric system of heat and mass transfer causing hard-to-predict changes, aka Climate Change which includes warming in some parts on Earth during some periods. Like how this summer felt hotter than ever before.
 
本质上来件,二氧化碳还不像大气层里的其他化学物质有那么大的破坏性,比如造成自由基反应破坏了臭氧层的物质,因为它是空气中自然存在的部分,但是超额的二氧化碳会破坏大气系统热量和传质的平衡,造成难以预测的变化,包括地球的某些区域在某时期的变暖。就像这几年夏天感觉比以往都要热。
 
Htin Moe
China not only has more porpulation than all the countries of the western world combined, China also is the factory of the world. China is making thing and doing dirty jobs such as recycling for the world.
 
Compare to the services China gives to the world, the emissions per capita in China is still much lower than the west.
 
China is doing a good job here.
 
中国不仅人口数量比所有西方国家总和还要多,中国也是世界的工厂。中国在为世界制造东西,并从事回收这样的肮脏工作。
相比中国为世界提供的服务,中国的人均排放量仍然远低于西方。中国在做好事。
 
maxtac elitpower
I believe Trump, no such thing call global warming.
 
我相信特朗普,没有全球变暖这种事。
 
Rachel Yi
You probably don't know that western countries are used to exporting their garbage to China because they can't handle it themselves. They do this to developing countries all the time. Of course their pollution is not that bad lmao but it's not like they really take responsibilities; instead, they brought the problems to poorer and weaker countries so they can prentend some pollution don't exist.
 
你可能不知道西方国家因为他们自己不会处理就习惯把垃圾出口到中国。他们对发展中国家一直如此。当然他们的污染没有那么糟糕但他们没有承担责任,反而,他们把问题带到贫穷些弱小些的国家,这样他们就能假装污染不存在。
 
Eddie L
@DanielChina is the biggest auto market. bigger than America. what year r u living in? 1970?
 
中国是最大的汽车市场,比美国还要大。你生活中哪年?1970?
 
左将军领徐州牧如东侯
Niza Laporre Do you really know something about mainland China?
 
你真的了解中国大陆么?
 
Fei Han
@Niza Laporre us military carbon emissions or pollution is way worse than any other country and you know why
 
美国军队的碳排放和污染比其他国家都要严重,你知道为什么吗?
 
Amidat
@The Drive man There were 7 million more cars sold in China than the US last year... China also has as many electric cars as the rest of the world COMBINED.  So you don't know what you are saying.  In any event - Shenzen has a very vast local subway/metro system...  It also has all electric buses and taxis.  So you don't even need a car in Shenzen... Which reduces your emissions more than even if you had an electric car.
 
去年在中国售出了700多万辆汽车,比美国还要多......中国的电动汽车数量也与世界其他国家的总和相当。所以你不知道你在说什么。无论如何——深圳有一个非常庞大的地铁系统......他还有全部的电动汽车和出租车。所以在深圳你甚至不需要小汽车,它比你拥有一台电动汽车减少的排放还要多。
 
Dongxu Zhou
de0509 Don’t ask moronic question. Why don’t you search it yourself? I can tell you that I’ve seen similar researches everywhere. Yes, Americans doubled Chinese at per capita level. 
 
不要问弱智问题。你怎么不自己查?我能告诉你我到处都能看到相似的研究。是的,美国的人均是中国的2倍。
 
And-yS
Daniel no... just no... it is less because the law state there are days you can’t drive, not because we don’t have car. Such a American thing, oh, sympathetic to those third world country
 
不,不是的。它少些是因为法律规定了有些日子你不能开车,而不是我们没有车。这是美国人的事情,哦,同情第三世界的国家。
 
jorge pearl
if USA doesn't lead in climate change, I hope China does, if not we are all doomed
 
如果美国不能带头应对气候变化,我希望中国可以,否则我们都厄运难逃。
 
Justinian the Great
If you believe those commies who manage to kill millions of its own people, in saving the environment then good luck to you.
 
如果你相信那些GC党员,他们为了保护环境杀死了自己上百万的人民,那祝你好运。
 
-SFA北美分局233号
@Justinian the Greatlol why should we believe in US that started basically most of the war happening on Earth today, and cancelled half of the treaties it signed, and are proven to be spying on everyone, and with a president that doesn't even believe that human are polluting the Earth    instead of China, the country that had the biggest amount of forest growth, biggest renewable energy  power plants, and a government that is working on a solution for problem instead of acting like the problem doesn't exist?
 
大笑,为什么我们要相信美国,他们发动了今天地球上的大部分战争,取消了他签署的一半条约,被证明对每一个人进行监视,有位甚至都不相信人类正在污染地球的总统。而中国,这个国家有世界上最大的森林增长率,最大的可再生能源发电厂,还有一个解决问题而不是假装问题不存在的政府?
 
jay dani
@-SFA北美分局233号actually it was the British not Americans that started most wars
 
实际上是英国而不是美国发动了大部分战争。
 
-SFA北美分局233号
@jay daniI'm talking about war happening "today", not wars in history. Afterall, US only had a history of 244 years, and it was at war formally or informally for more than 200 years
 
我说的是“今天的战争”,而不是历史上的。毕竟,美国只有244年的历史,正式或非正式的战争持续了200多年。
 
jay dani
@-SFA北美分局233号 well all major nations have a history of war ur country probably does too.
And America hasn't fought any wars for nefarious purposes.
 
是的所有的国家都有战争历史,你的国家或许也一样。美国从没有因为邪恶目的发起战争。
 
Xiao Chang
I live in east of China,the climate is going better than past years.
 
我住在中国东部,气候比前几年好多了。
 
Niels Robben
ironic to see that China is leading the important initiative for the future wellbeing of humanity. Where US is doing the opposite actually. I wont be supprised this may result in jump in wealth and growth in China, while this may add US economy at risk in the next 10 years or so. Or at least lost potential revenue.
 
很讽刺的是,中国正在领导人类未来福祉的重要举措,而事实上美国正相反。我并不惊讶,这或许终会导致中国财富和增长大幅增加,同时让美国经济在未来10年陷入危机。或者至少失去潜在收入。
 
Wiztard
China creates the most pollution in the world. Even more than India. The people there are advised to not even go outside for long periods of time several days out of the year. What are you talking about?
 
中国制造了世界上最多的污染,比印度还要多。那儿的人们甚至被建议一年有几天不要长时间外出。你们在说什么?
 
Zoe Phin
Niels Robben 
Solar panel production creates a lot of pollution. This type of pollution makes solar panels more expensive in the US, which puts China at a competitive advantage.
 
太阳能电池板的生产制造了大量污染,这种污染使太阳能电池板在美国更贵,让中国更具竞争优势。
 
JÖYの貓
Niels Robben funny though. US is doing other tactics to prevent China's economic growth
 
有趣的是美国在采取其他策略来阻止中国经济增长。
 
Unicorn Blood
America's politicians and their campaigns are after all, strongly funded by big oil companies. Which is corrupt considering America wages disportionately extensive wars in oil rich Middle East and does not acknowledge the paris climate change pact as a legit concern.
 
毕竟,美国的政客和他们的竞选活动,都是由大石油公司大力资助的。考虑到美国在盛产石油的中东地区发动大规模战争,而且不承认巴黎气候协议是一个合法的问题,哪个更腐败呢?
 
weiqiang yang
The air quality is much better than last year in HangZhou, I think that's a improvement
 
杭州现在的空气质量比去年好得多,我认为这就是改进。
 
mindlesstube
Hope some one leads the way, cause the west has failed and is slowly falling apart.
 
希望有人带头,因为西方已经失败了,而且正在分崩离析。
 
Dirty Poul
The EU is doing pretty well for the most part. We do have issues, but nothing as glarring as the US.
 
欧盟在很大程度上做得很好。我们是有问题,但没有美国明目张胆。
 
mindlesstube
You serious? You can get apps that tell you where the no go zones are and France losing in  tourist numbers is doing pretty well?  And how many terrorist attacks in the past 3 years?
 
你是认真的?你可以下载一些程序,告诉你哪些区域是禁止入内的,法国在游客损失数量上表现得相当不错?过去3年发生了多少次恐怖袭击?
 
Dirty Poul
HA HA HA, you're one of those people who actually believe in no go zones. I have to ask you, where do you get this stuff from? How did this term catch on amongst you alt rights? Do you even live in Europe?
 
哈哈哈,你就是那些真的相信有禁区的人。我不得不问你,你从哪里得到这些东西的?这个术语是如何在你们中流行起来的?你还住在欧洲么?
 
mindlesstube
So the 1,000 cars being torched across France on new year eve sounds like things are going well.
 
因此新年前夜,在法国各地被点燃的1000辆汽车似乎听起来进展顺利。
 
 

 


 

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