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中国经济的历史 The Historic Economy of China

字号+ 作者:admin 来源:未知 2020-03-03 16:42 次阅读

印度需要一个印度版的MAO主席来崛起。印度庞大的人口和根深蒂固的等级制度是现代化和工业化的主要障碍。即使西方媒体非常努力地支持印度,在进行大规模的社会和文化改革之前,印度也不可能成为一个工业化国家。

 
 
 
 
Kim Jong-un
no mention of the opium wars this really is an over simplifications of why china lost its dominance
 
不提鸦片战争,这实际上是对中国失去统治地位的一种过分简化。
 
Zeitgeist X
I like how your mis stated PPP. You should've explained that it's not just poor countries but also countries that keep their currency exchange rates low versus the dollar like Japan. During Abe's version of QE their GDP took a due to Japan artificially keeping the value of the yen down. You literally say the reported income and profit reports of Japan's largest corporations in USD dropping drastically from one quarter to the next due to the change in the yen's value.
 
我喜欢你的错误陈述。你应该解释一下,不仅仅是贫穷国家,还有像日本这样的国家也保持低汇率。在安倍推出量化宽松政策期间,日本人为压低日元汇率,导致日本国内生产总值(GDP)下降。你的字面意思是,由于日元价值的变化,日本最大的公司以美元计价的收入和利润报告从这一个季度到下一个季度急剧下降。
 
blaze armoru
A bit of an off question but do you have more information regarding comparative wars within china VS within the western world, and how far back that information spans? I'm curious about way back in the 3 kingdoms era when china kept breaking apart due to total incompetence. :x
 
有点离题,但你有更多关于中国与西方战争比较的信息吗?这些信息的跨度有多远?我很好奇回到三国时代,那时中国由于无能一直在分裂。
 
Indiana Thrills
Economics Explained but what about the future of the Chinese economy and could it take over the US? We can see now that the US and other countries are being harsh on the totalitarian CCP due to the Hong Kong Protests and how they suck at treating its citizens with respect and giving them freedom. In the US and other western nations a political shift is occurring which is bringing in more business friendly and anti socialist leaders; and since the trade war began business have been moving back to the US especially in the past year. While China is facing instability and protests. So can the question is can China overtake the US or due to political and economic reasons fall further behind and potentially be passed by another country?
 
经济学解释了这一点,但中国经济的未来如何?中国能否接管美国?现在我们可以看到,由于香港的KY活动,美国和其他国家对极泉主义的中国GCD非常严厉,而且他们在尊重和给予公民自YOU方面表现得非常糟糕。在美国和其他西方国家,一场政治变革正在发生,它带来了更多亲商和反社HUI主义的领导人;自从贸易战开始以来,尤其是在过去的一年里,企业正在回迁美国。而中国正面临不稳定和抗议。那么,问题是,中国能否超越美国,还是由于政治和经济原因进一步落后,可能被另一个国家超越?
 
S Smart
Meanwhile India have finally become a world famous rapist and the most polluted nation in the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
与此同时,印度终于成为世界著名的强奸犯和世界上污染最严重的国家!!!
 
tian le Zheng
we are happy to see you can make the world to know real China
 
我们很高兴看到你可以让世界了解真正的中国。
 
Tobias Grieg-Halvorsen
Not entirely accurate that Rome's knowledge was "lost". The Roman empire kept on going with all its knowledge through the Byzantine Empire. Many of the younger nations of the Western Roman Empire (Spain, Frankisk Empire) continued as "smaller Roman Empires". You are right though to say that some technology, such as cement/concrete, was either lost or just abandoned as trade faded out with the collapse of the Roman Empire and roads were therefore not a primary concern.
 
罗马的知识“丢失”并不完全准确。罗马帝国通过拜占庭帝国继续传播它所有的知识。西罗马帝国的许多较年轻的国家(西班牙,法兰克帝国)继续作为“较小的罗马帝国”。不过,你说得对,有些技术,如水泥/混凝土,要么是因为罗马帝国的崩溃,商业逐渐消失而被遗弃,要么就是丢失了,因此道路并不是主要问题。
 
Durandisse84 Durandisse
China has no throne. Too many of their people still work in U.S. factories for pennies on the dollar.
 
中国没有登上王位。他们中有太多的人仍然在美国的工厂里以极低的工资工作。
 
Tensai
Oh no, US is not going to like this video. Especially US is trying every trick in the playbook to ban Huawei 5G.
 
哦不,美国不会喜欢这个视频的。尤其是美国正在想尽一切办法禁止华为5G。
 
Torque
Still depicting Africa as poor and starving in 2019. $10K in Lagos Nigeria won't do nearly as much as u said it would. Do proper research and stop depicting African countries as poor and starving. Many Africans like myself do business in Africa and live far better lives than many Americans and Europeans. I recommend u read Factfulness by Hans Rosling. Someone with a channel like yours should have depth, and not just making videos for ad revenue.
 
都2019年了仍然把非洲描绘成贫穷和饥饿的国家。尼日利亚拉各斯的1万美元不会像你说的那样多。做适当的研究,不要把非洲国家描绘成贫穷和饥饿的国家。许多像我这样的非洲人在非洲做生意,生活比许多美国人和欧洲人好得多。我建议你读汉斯·罗斯林的《真实》。拥有像你这样的频道的人应该有深度,而不仅仅是为了广告收入而制作视频。
 
Alex Zhang
Indiana Thrills i don't know why US government cheats his citizen that Chinese people don't like their government. In fact, 91% Chinese people think China is on the right way to rise. (some HK students are exception, NGO from US there to teach them). You really think US care Chinese people's right, No! Look at Huawei.
 
我不知道为什么美国政府欺骗他的公民,说中国人不喜欢他们的政府。事实上,91%的中国人认为中国正在正确的道路上崛起。(一些香港学生是例外,来自美国的非政府组织在那里教他们)。你真的认为美国关心中国人的权利吗?不!看看华为。
 
 
nixonhoover2
@Torque  This assclown didn't do any research whatsoever and simply pulled random 'facts/statistics' from his ass. You have to understand that he is a typical ignorant, white westerner who thinks he could go to Lagos with 100 of whatever currency his country uses and expect to live like a king then gets mad when reality hits them.
 
这个混蛋没有做任何研究,只是从屁股上随机抽取了一些“事实/统计数据”。你必须明白,他是一个典型的无知的西方白人,他认为他可以带着100元(无论他们国家使用的是什么货币)去拉各斯,并期望过上国王般的生活,但当现实降临时,他会发疯。
 
小熊维尼
I find that you neglected the western invasion and colonization of China in the 19th century. Maybe you can consider that China's backwardness in the 20th century is because it was robbed of wealth by Westerners. The British and French burned down Chinese palaces, slaughtered Chinese people and plundered Chinese land. That's why in the 20th century China's economy declined and its political situation became unstable.
 
我发现你忽略了西方在19世纪对中国的侵略和殖民。也许你可以认为中国在20世纪的落后是因为它被西方人掠夺了财富。英法两国烧毁了中国的宫殿,屠杀了中国人民,掠夺了中国的土地。这就是为什么在20世纪中国的经济衰退,政治局势变得不稳定的原因。
 
Huff_Puff
@blaze armoru It didnt keep breaking apart, 3 kingdoms were consolidated, wei ended up conquering shu(and parts of korea which were also in their own 3 kingdoms period), sima clan overthrew wei and established jin and conquered wu.
 
它没有一直分裂,三国统一后,魏国最终征服了蜀国(以及朝鲜半岛的部分地区,当时也属三国时期),司马氏推翻了魏国,建立了晋国并征服了吴国。
 
Duncan Black
Dude, $10,000 it's a year rent in urban cities, you can't build a house sorry to disappoint you
 
伙计,1万美元是城市里一年的房租,你不能建房子抱歉让你失望了。
 
Ecovita
The rise and fall and rise and fall and rise and fall and rise and fall and rise and fall and rice of china
 
中国崛起又衰落,崛起又衰落......
 
milky
it'll fall again
 
它再次衰落了。
 
Darwin Magsino
@milky well if china surpassing usa to become worlds biggest economy it will hard for another countries to surpass china because by 2050 Chinas economy will be 3x bigger than usa economy in the coming future...
 
如果中国超过美国成为世界上最大的经济体,其他国家将很难超越中国,因为在不久的未来到2050年,中国的经济规模将是美国的3倍。
 

 
Pete Petersen
I'm half Chinese so I can be honest. The Indians have better rice.
 
我是半个中国人所以我必须诚实。印度的大米更好。
 
Roy Ji
@Pete Petersen totally agreed. Chinese and Thai rice is full of sugar. Indian and Pakistan rice is more healthy.
 
完全同意。中国和泰国的大米含糖高。印度和巴基斯坦的大米更健康。
 
northKorean out
The international community ignores China's inconvenient or bad things Many people in the world who should protest human rights repression, speech repression and democratization to China forever do not know China
 
国际社会无视中国的不便或坏事,世界上有许多人应该向中国抗议人权Z压、言论Z压和民主化,他们永远不了解中国.
 
Erwin GoBig
More accurately, before industrialization, China is the only single powerhouse in Asia, so China didn't fall, it only breaks into pieces and units again.
 
更准确地说,在工业化之前,中国是亚洲唯一的强国,所以中国没有倒下,它只是再次分裂并再度统一。
 
Ironegg
Frank El Tanka yes, ancient China had been strong in history, just like other ancient civilisations. But it fell multiple times. It fell due to barbaric invasions. As an example, there was a Chinese anti-Mongolian war, when China was in war defending Mongolian invasion in 12DC, and lost 70% of it’s population. It took hundreds of years to pull it up and rise again.
 
是的,历史上古代中国很强大,就像其他的古代文明。但是它衰落了很多次。它是由于野蛮入侵而衰落的。举个例子,有一场反蒙古的战争,当时中国在12个地区为保卫蒙古入侵而战,损失了70%的人口。它花了几百年的时间才恢复并再次崛起。
 
Pename
That's right, only China can cycle thru the rise and fall for 5000 years, most empires go extinct in a much shorter time frame.
 
没错,只有中国能经历5000年的兴衰,大多数帝国灭亡的时间都很短。
 
passerby
SO smart this comment esp the use of rice. Racists are the lowest denominator of the human race.
 
这个评论很聪明,尤其是关于大米的使用。种族主义者是人类的最低标准。
 
Bnei Bľanco
@just your average joe hope they can rise after the fall...they going to need a lot of slave labor bcuz that was what made them great..
 
希望他们在衰落之后再次崛起.......他们将需要大量的奴隶劳工,因为正是这些使他们变得伟大。
 
Chng Chee Hwee
China has many areas to learn from Western countries.
 
中国有很多地方需要向西方国家学习。
 
Chng Chee Hwee
@Darwin Magsino India is catching up, China still has so much to learn.
 
印度正在迎头追赶,中国仍然还有很多要学习的地方。
 
Andrew Smith
@just your average joe I'd be more impressed if America too like China survived from.the Bronze Age of Humanity to this day. Surviving smallpox, plague out reals, the Huns, Advent of gunpowder weapons and countless invasions/raiders
 
从青铜时代至今,如果美国也像中国一样,从天花,瘟疫,匈奴,火药武器的出现和无数的入侵/掠夺者中幸存,我会更加印象深刻。
 
Taiwan Sausage
@Chng Chee Hwee  nah....india needs an indian version of chairman mao to rise. india's massive population and deep rooted caste system are major barricades to modernity and industrialization. even tho the western medias are trying very hard to prop up india, india will never be able to turn itself into an industrialized nation before it makes massive social and cultural reforms.
 
不....印度需要一个印度版的MAO主席来崛起。印度庞大的人口和根深蒂固的等级制度是现代化和工业化的主要障碍。即使西方媒体非常努力地支持印度,在进行大规模的社会和文化改革之前,印度也不可能成为一个工业化国家。
 
Bruce Yeh
@Subramanian Mani Unless USA fell apart in the future, India max level is the 3rd largest economy.
 
除非美国将来分裂,否则印度最高水平将是第三大经济体。
 
 
MeGawOOt99
@Darwin Magsino Its very hard to surpass an economy as an export economy. If the countries decide to not trade with you, your kinda boned. A consumer economy with a mix of local business and international one is better like how the US only relies on 7-8 percent of international trade while countries like Germany depends on the US cause it is 30-45ish percent of the exports.
 
很难超越一个出口型经济体。如果这些国家决定不和你做生意,你就会变得骨瘦如柴。一个混合了本地企业和国际企业的消费经济更好,就像美国只依赖7% - 8%的国际贸易,而像德国这样的国家依赖美国,因为它的出口占30% - 45%左右。
 
James Hui
@MeGawOOt99  buttttttt why would countries not want to trade?
 
但是为什么会有国家不想和你做贸易?
 
MeGawOOt99
@James Hui Well US has all the natural resource and farmland. They only thing other countries can offer is the same products at a cheaper price. Like I always said access to market is not a right its a privilege. Allies should trade with one another, but I don't see the point of trading with countries that are actively trying to undermine your country. No matter how cheap their goods are.
 
美国拥有所有的自然资源和农田。其他国家唯一能做的就是以更低的价格提供同样的产品。就像我常说的,进入市场不是一种权利,而是一种特权。盟友之间应该进行贸易,但我不认为与那些积极地试图破坏你们国家的国家进行贸易有什么意义。不管他们的商品有多便宜。
 
James Hui
@MeGawOOt99 actively trying to undermine your country???? where did you learn that from?? if anything it's only the other way around also providing cheap goods is only benefitial to everyone, sounds to me you are just biased against china
 
积极地试图破坏你的国家??你从哪儿学来的?如果有什么区别的话,那就是反过来,提供廉价商品对每个人都有好处,听起来你对中国有偏见。
 
MeGawOOt99
@James Hui  You mean like places like China? The man-made islands which are illegal internationally and was told they were refueling islands and promised not to militarize them? Countries that will talk about rule of law but willing to cancel them at a moments notice when there are protest. Promises of 50 years of independent rule broken? (Hong Kong). Reeducation camps of Muslims forcing them to drink alcohol and eat pork? All I am saying is you should trade with countries with the same values as you. Its simple. We don't need Venezuela, China, Iran, or Russia. They want to join in trading with the west, its simple. Reform. Establish rule of law. Countries like Poland did it.
 
你是说像中国这样的地方?这些人造岛屿在国际上是非法的,他们告知正在给这些岛屿补给燃料,并承诺不会使其军事化?这些国家谈论法治,但一旦出现抗议,它们就会取消法治。打破50年DL统治的承诺?(HK)。强迫MSL喝酒吃猪肉的再JY营?我想说的是,你们应该与与你们价值观相同的国家进行贸易。这很简单。我们不需要委内瑞拉、中国、伊朗或俄罗斯。他们想加入与西方的贸易,这很简单。改革,建立法治。像波兰这样的国家就做到了。
 
MeGawOOt99
@James Hui Its pure and simple a country who funds 22-28 percent ($10 billion in 2017) regular budget to the UN, US finanical commitment to the IMF is $128billion, 11 percent (Highest contribution at 22billion) to the WTO. Apparently all countries are the same right? Its pure and simple world institution is like a corporation. We have shares, US has the highest shares we have the highest amount of say because of it. Does someone want to more say in world stage. Simple spend more. No one is stopping you or your country from buying more shares. Explain why do we need to be multi-lateral with our decision when we fund most of it? The US financial system is literally the bank of the world. 100 Percent of naval commercial insurance is American.
 
它(美国)是一个单纯的国家,向联合国提供22% - 28%(2017年100亿美元)的经常预算,美国对IMF的财政承诺是1280亿美元,向世贸组织的贡献是11%(最高的220亿美元)。显然所有国家都是一样的,对吗?纯粹而简单的世界机构就像一个公司。我们美国有最高的股份,因此我们有最高的发言权。有人想在世界舞台上有更多发言权吗?很简单,花更多的钱。没有人阻止你或你的国家购买更多的股份。解释一下,当我们为大部分决策提供资金时,为什么我们需要进行多方决策?美国金融体系简直就是世界银行。海军商业保险100%是美国的。
 
James Hui
​@MeGawOOt99 looks like the trade war did do something to you, negatively that is, as you obviously cant comprehend what i'm saying this was never about the US, stop praising a country built on blood money and stolen technology my first question as actually very simple to understand - why would any country stop trading with china, not just US then i ask how china is undermining the US, and you dismiss the question by speaking about american propaganda, BOO CHINA BAD BOO unasked for, you again boast about how the US is the most powerful country in the world, further emphasising the ignorance and bias towards the US you have perhaps you just have to accept that fact that the growth of the chinese economy is at a much faster rate than that of the US, and it is just the variable of time that is stopping china from becoming the largest economically developed country
 
看起来像贸易战争对你做一些消极的事情,你显然不理解我在说什么,从来就和美国无关。停止赞扬一个建立在血腥金钱和偷来技术上的国家,我的第一个问题很容易理解——为什么很多国家会停止与中国的贸易,不仅是美国,然后我问中国是如何动摇美国,你说这个问题谈到了美国宣传驳回了这个问题,你再次吹嘘美国是如何成为世界上最强大的国家,进一步强调了对美国的无知和偏见。也许你不得不接受这一事实,中国经济的增长速度比美国快得多,而阻止中国成为经济最发达国家的,只是时间问题。
 
James Hui
@MeGawOOt99  well well well, look who avoided my question once again
 
好了好了,看看谁再次回避了我的问题。
 
James Hui
@MeGawOOt99 im not answering your questions until you answer my questions strange how you always seem to go off topic and start praising the usa and their power
 
我不会回答你的问题,直到你回答我的问题。奇怪的是,你似乎总是跑题,开始赞美美国和他们的力量。
 
YUYU SYNTHEPIAN
@MeGawOOt99 laughing looking at you praising u.s, look at daylight bombing on iraq, u.s troop raping japan civilian, both country vote for u.s leaves democracy, but ya u.s doesn;t care about it.
 
大笑着看你赞扬美国,看看对伊拉克的日间轰炸,美国军队强奸日本平民,这两个国家都支持美国,但是美国并不关心。
 
 
Soumya Banerjee
Stability is the foundation of a good economy. * Everybody agreed with that *
 
稳定是经济繁荣的基础,每个人都赞同这点。
 
Internet Troll
stability through fear is tyranny. that's the kind of stability China is.
 
恐惧带来的稳定就是BAO政。这就是中国的稳定。
 
Fusion
I don't agree with that. Stability is the foundation of measuring an economy. @Internet Troll it definitely is a tyranny... but so every other large nation state. Freedom can only be local, and voluntary, no matter where you are.
 
我不同意。稳定是衡量经济的基础。这绝对是BAO政……但其他大国也是如此。自由只能是局部的自愿的,无论你在哪里。
 
OG C
Fusion um definitely not every other large nation state. US is nothing like China. When you live in China you hear what they want you to hear and say what they want you to say. Unless you want to break the law and use a VPN.
 
肯定不是其他大国都能做到的。美国一点也不像中国。当你生活在中国,你听到他们想让你听到的,说他们想让你说的。除非你想违法使用VPN。
 
Fusion
@OG C other nations are a lot nicer to you while they take taxes from you and regulate your life by force. But if the threat is violence or loss of liberty if you don't comply, it's a tyranny. Yes, the US is nothing like China. I'm American, and I have lived in China. But anything that is not voluntary, without coercion, can only be called "involuntary" or "coerced" - this is why I say that freedom can only be local. You can actually change things at the local level. This way of thinking is called "libertarian."
 
其他国家对你好得多,但他们从你这里收税,用武力管制你的生活。但如果是暴力威胁或你不服从就会失去自由,那就是暴正。是的,美国与中国截然不同。我是美国人,我在中国生活过。但是任何不是自愿的,没有强迫的,只能被称为“非自愿的”或“被迫的”——这就是为什么我说自由只能是局部的。你可以在地方层面上做出改变。这种思维方式被称为“自由意志主义”。
 
dd
@Internet Troll  That is largely incorrect. The stability in China is achieved through maximizing the economic vitality for the majority of the population and the use of propaganda and information control. Most people are no more fearful of the government than are fearful of not being able to climb up the socio-economic ladder. Fear alone is never enough to control and unite a country the size of China.
 
这在很大程度上是错误的。中国的稳定是通过最大化大多数人的经济活力和利用宣传和信息控制来实现的。大多数人对ZF的恐惧并不比无法攀登社会经济阶层更严重。光有恐惧还不足以控制和团结一个像中国这么大的国家。
 
Wong Xuance
Don't say that China has VPN so that they cannot access to the foreign networks, you can easily do that with downloading an app, and there are around 110million people using these way for better information! But interestingly , after they could access to the foreign network they become more Pro-Peking, since they know how fake the western media are. The only question about Chinese news is information limit, unlike u guys who are telling lies or saying something that is only based on ur guess!
 
不要说中国有VPN,所以他们不能访问外国网络,你可以很容易地下载一个应用程序,有大约1.1亿人使用这些方式来获取更好的信息!但有趣的是,在他们能够接触到外国网络之后,他们变得更加亲北京,因为他们知道西方媒体是多么虚假。关于中国新闻,唯一的问题是信息限制,不像你们这些家伙说谎或者说一些只是基于你们猜测的事情!
 
niel liang
@Fusion  I merely got a plain question for your opinion. If you think the privilege of freedom in China is contrived, reticent, and inhibited that why you have to insist on staying and living in China. Likewise, I had been living and working in the US for a couple of years, yet I disliked the environment there so that I moved to other nations for living. Of course, I may still go back to tackle a few business assignments sometimes if I needed, still, I wouldn't fight against my will to live there.
 
我只不过是想听听你的意见。如果你认为在中国自由的特权是人为的,沉默的,抑制的,那你为什么要坚持在中国生活。同样,我在美国生活和工作了几年,但我不喜欢那里的环境,所以我搬到其他国家生活。当然,如果需要的话,我有时也会回去处理一些业务,但我不会违背自己的意愿在那里生活。
 
niel liang
@Fusion don't need to apologize for your authentic experience and story and I didn't criticize you nor get irritated by what you had replied above, hence, don't get me wrong. The sole factor I asked you for the question is that I was curious about your circumstances, thereby feeling regret for you. As my modest notion, I empathize with what you had been through due to a similar situation like yours I had been in the US, which was veracious shoddy and dire dimensions most people won't encounter in the world. Anyway, I'm just happy for you about the outcome finally you made. Appreciate your share.
 
不需要为你真实的经历和故事道歉,我没有批评你,也没有被你上面的回答惹恼,所以,不要误会我。我问你这个问题的唯一原因是我对你的情况很好奇,因此为你感到遗憾。作为我谦虚的想法,我同情你所经历的,因为类似的情况我在美国也有经历,这是真实的,伪劣的可怕的,世界上大多数人不会遇到。不管怎样,我为你最终的结果感到高兴。感谢你的分享。
 
James
Many European wars and the driver for exploration was them just trying to get better trade routes to China.
 
许多欧洲战争和探险的动力都是为了获得更好的通往中国的贸易路线。
 
Fusion
and Europeans didn't bring opium into China. Chinese people did that, and the market for selling opium to the Chinese existed before The White Man arrived.
 
欧洲人也没有把鸦片带进中国。中国人自己做的,在白人到来之前,向中国人出售鸦片的市场就已经存在了。
 
Tezzeen
There has never been a driver of exploration. Sure columbus might have wanted to explore, but he wouldn't have gotten the funding if it weren't for the economic incentives. 
 
从来就没有探索的动力。当然,哥伦布可能想要探索,但如果没有经济上的激励,他就不会得到资金。
 
freddy46
@Tezzeen Colimbus literally set out with the goal of sailing into Asia, and he thought that was possible with supplies because he got his numbers wrong when calculating the size of the Earth
 
哥伦布的目标是航行到亚洲,他认为这是有可能的,因为他在计算地球的大小时把数字搞错了。
 
Stalin Steel
@Fusion Funny we Hispanics can say the same thing about the Anglos up North, you made the drug problem on your own.
 
有趣的是,我们西班牙人也会对北部的盎格鲁人说同样的话,是你们自己制造了毒品问题。
 
Singapore Capitalist
He also conveniently omitted the Opium wars. Just saying that China was unstable.
 
他还顺便省略了鸦片战争。只是说中国不稳定。
 
J 19
@Singapore Captialist - What he’s saying is that in the 20th century China had lots of civil wars from 1912. The opium wars didn’t make China unstable
 
他的意思是,在20世纪,中国从1912年起经历了多次内战。鸦片战争并没有使中国变得不稳定。
 
Paper Cat
True because current Chinese likes learn from out side. Whites seems like they don’t give a shit most of the time
 
真的,因为现在的中国人喜欢向外学习。白人好像大部分时间都不在乎。


 

 

 

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