Quora:什么让你恶心?一位网友提到了曲婉婷

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Quora:什么让你恶心?一位网友提到了曲婉婷

 

本文译自Quora,原标题:What disgusts you?

 

这个话题下有很多各种各样的答案,与中国有关的其中一个就是这个回答,这里翻译一下分享给大家。原文翻译,只为传递信息,不持任何立场。

 

 


Vivian Kai


Chinese. Born and raised,Traveling here and there

作为中国人出生和长大,到处旅行

 

这个女人在中国是个著名的歌手,她的母亲是政府高官,贪污了3.5亿元人民币,其中包括部分国有资产和许多退休职工的工资、医疗保险和取暖费,使许多家庭无法支付住院费用,无法使用暖气,许多老人因此死亡。在她母亲被警方带走前,她带着赃款逃到加拿大,成为了温哥华市长的情妇,她在温哥华生活奢侈。如今,她的母亲已被羁押6年,由于拒不认罪、不上缴赃款,法院因证据不足一直无法作出判决。但在一次采访中,她说:“感谢我母亲满足了我从童年到大学的愿望,把我送到昂贵的音乐学校,我不在乎别人怎么说,也不在乎她的钱哪来的。”



编辑:这个女人的名字叫曲婉婷(Wanting Qu),是格雷戈·罗伯逊(Gregor Robertson)的情妇,不清楚他们现在是否还在一起。




评论



Jamie Wang
Due to having no extradition agreement, the US and Canada are the first choice of corrupted Chinese official and their kids.

由于没有引渡协议,美国和加拿大是中国腐Bai官员及其子女的首选。


 
Lawrence Brown
Well there's an easy cure for that, if people stop following her and stop paying attention to her, maybe she'll see the error of her mother's ways as well as that error in her thinking.
 
Being beautiful on the outside doesn't always equate to being beautiful on the inside, as this case goes to show!
 
What her mother did was wrong, but the fact that it brought hardship as well as death to others and the fact that she's so resistant to face that fact, only goes to show the type of daughter her mother raised, materialistic!
 
This world is set up to keep us at each other's throats. The fact that the rich become richer and the Rift between poor and somebody well off becomes farther and farther apart. This is the problem with our reality!
 
We create our own problems by buying into other people's ideologies! Instead of doing the things we know to be right!
 
Perspective is the mother of all f*** ups.

好吧,有一个简单的对策,如果人们不再粉她,不再关注她,也许她会看到她母亲的错误和她的思想错误。
 
外表美丽并不总是等同于内在美丽,正如这个例子所展示的那样!
 
她母亲所做的事情是错误的,事实上,这给别人带来了痛苦和死亡。她如此抗拒面对这个事实,这只会显示出她母亲教养子女的失败!
 
这个世界就是为了让我们互相掐架而设立的。富人越来越富,穷人和富人之间的裂痕越来越大,这就是我们现实的问题!


 
Mohamed Karabilou
“This world is set up to keep us at each other's throats. The fact that the rich become richer and the Rift between poor and somebody well off becomes farther and farther apart. This is the problem with our reality!”
 
That's exactly what I think..
 
Mohamed Karabilou

“这个世界就是为了让我们互相掐架而设立的。富人越来越富,穷人和富人之间的裂痕越来越大,这就是我们现实的问题!”
 
我就是这么想的。。


 
Yun Lam Li
For the benefit of the people like myself with no idea who she is, who was/is the major of Vancouver has her as a mistress, and who her mother is, could you be more specific with something that references? I understand it may be a problem in legality to name names. But since you already had posted her photo, might as well name her, her mother and the major.

为了方便像我这样不知道她是谁的人,可以说一说谁是温哥华的市长?是谁让她当情妇?她的母亲是谁?你能更具体地说一下吗?我知道指名道姓可能有法律方面的问题。但既然你已经贴出了她的照片,不妨把她,她妈妈和温哥华市长的名字都贴出来。


 
Jeremy Wong
Google: Wanting Qu
 Guess her first name says it all.

谷歌:曲婉婷(Wanting Qu)
 我猜她的名字说明了一切。


 
Angela Pandolfo
Lets get the FBI and they will track her down and arrest her. With technology today evidence is apparent and obtainable. I would help if the investigation, I wish i was an undercover cop, it will give me great pleasure to bring these greedy people down.

我们去找联邦调查局,他们会找到并逮捕她。在今天的科技时代,证据是显而易见的,而且是可以获得的。如果调查的话我会帮忙的,我希望我是个卧底警察,能把这些贪婪的人打倒我会很高兴的。


 
Jason Meng
Not really possible. It is well known among Chinese that corrupt officials and businessmen love to run to Canada, Australia or the US. As these 3 countries are at odds with China, meaning no extradition possible, as well as having a sizeable Chinese population (familiarity).

不太可能。中国人都知道贪官和商人喜欢跑到加拿大、澳大利亚或美国。因为这3个国家与中国有分歧,这意味着不可能被引渡,而且那里有相当多的华人(方便熟悉环境)。


 
Angela Pandolfo
Really? Wow you are well informed. Lol

真的吗?哇,你真是见多识广。哈哈。


 
Jason Meng
Thanks, I mean I went to a high school in NZ where 25% of the students are East-Asian. 20% were Chinese by descent, 80% of these Chinese are from mainland China.
I am of Chinese descent myself, so it was easy for me to talk about politics with them in high school. I find nearly all the international students have relatives in the party, most are children of businessman or members of the bureaucracy. Not one of them actually support the party, or believe in the party, however, they will all defend it if someone else (non-Chinese) attacks it. It is a well known fact that many of the students family’s shouldn’t be able to pay the school fees considering how low their “official” income is.
 
I had classmates buying brand “new” luxury cars and other luxury items here as a way to funnel the “unclean” money out of China.

谢谢,我在新西兰上的高中,那里25%的学生是东亚人,其中20%是华裔,这里面又有80%来自中国大陆。
 
我自己也是华裔,所以高中时和他们谈政治很容易。我发现,几乎所有的留学生都有亲戚在党内,大多数是商人的子女或官僚机构的成员。他们中没有一个人真正支持GC党,也没有人相信GC党。但是,如果有人(非中国人)攻击它,他们都会捍卫GC党。一个众所周知的事实是,考虑到他们的“正式”收入有多低,许多学生家庭应该无法支付学费。
 
我有同学在这里买了全新的豪华车和其他奢侈品,以此将“不干净”的钱从中国转移出去。


 
Angela Pandolfo
Dirty money is everywhere and it’s something they shouldn’t be proud of showing their luxurious purchase that dont come from genuine hard work sweat and tears. Jason you seem like a smart, sensible guy. We all learn from corrupt sources and greedy, materialistic people. Its not what you wanna be. Keep away from these shady and fake sorts. Which im sure you have no intentions of doing. Knowledge is power, be proud of yourself. ���������

肮脏的钱到处都是,他们不应该为炫耀自己的奢侈品而骄傲,这些东西不是来自真正辛勤工作的汗水和泪水。Jason,你看起来是个聪明,理智的人。我们要从那些腐Bai贪婪,贪图享乐的人那里吸取教训,这不是你想要的。远离这些阴暗虚伪的人,我敢肯定你无意变成那样。知识就是力量,要为自己骄傲。


 
Ed Tao
When you have diplomatic immunity you can do anything. That's why in the Jamal Khashoggi death the killers were able to carry the dismembered body parts through an airport and onto a plane. The rules are the rules. Some will gain and some will lose. If the money was stolen, the Chinese government will have to go through the due process to get it back from Wanting Qu.

如果你有外交豁免权,你可以做任何事。这就是为什么在贾马尔·卡舒吉(译注:Jamal Khashoggi,沙特阿拉伯记者,在沙特驻土耳其使馆遇害)的死亡案中,凶手能够将被肢解的身体部分运送到机场和飞机上。规则就是规则,有得必有失。如果这笔钱被偷了,中国ZF将不得不通过正当程序从曲婉婷的手中拿回去。


 
James Chen
Diplomatic immunity? Pretty sure that applies to diplomatic staff only. She is more likely to claim that she is “politically-persecuted” while *obviously* sitting on millions of slush fund from questionable sources.
 
When one is laundering a sufficiently large sum of money and for a “poltically-correct” reason, one might just be a risk that is deemed acceptable by a bank's “risk appetite”. That's the “free movement” of capital for you.
 
Your logic of “if China wants to gets back the stolen money, the Chinese government got to go through the due process” should also be applied to Qu. If she wishes to absolve her mother of her alleged crimes, why not appeal and testify in a Chinese Court? Why rant on social media? Mob justice?

外交豁免权?很肯定这只适用于外交人员。她更可能声称自己是遭遇“政治迫害”,但*显然*她坐拥着来源可疑的数百万现金。
 
当一个人为了一个“极为正确”的理由洗钱时,一种可能是银行的“风险偏好”认为这是可以接受的风险。这就是资本的“自由流动”。
 
你说的“如果中国想追回赃款,中国ZF必须走正当程序”的逻辑也应该适用于曲婉婷。如果她希望免除她母亲的指控,为什么不在中国法院上诉和作证呢?为什么在社交媒体上咆哮?这不是暴民正义吗?


 
Ed Tao
My bad on the diplomatic immunity, but I don’t think they would have needed it to move the money.
 
I don’t know what the rules are in China when it comes to locals wiring money to another country, but a government official will likely find it a lot easier to do than some random unknown. KYC is easier, and unless you had proof at the time about how dishonest the money was made, AML tests would be easily passed. I remember there was a time a few years ago when the Chinese were buying-up everything around the world. I would assume that was the period when most of the money was wired out.

我对外交豁免权很不满意,但我认为她们不需要它来转移资金。
 
我不知道在中国,当地人把钱汇到另一个国家需要遵守什么规则,但一个政府官员可能会发现这比一些随机的未知事件要容易得多。除非你当时有证据证明这些钱是干净的,否则很容易通过反洗钱测试。我记得几年前有一段时间,中国人在全世界买买买,我想那是她们把大部分钱都汇出去的时候。


 
Ed Tao
Wanting does not need to or have to go back, especially as there is no law to extradite her. In short she doesn’t have to do anything. Therefore, the Chinese government will have to chase her for the money. These are the rules. It doesn’t make it right because there is clearly suspicion that the money was obtained dishonestly.

曲婉婷不需要也不必回去,尤其是在没有法律可以引渡她的情况下。简言之,她什么都不用做。因此,中国ZF将不得不追查她的钱。这些是规则,但这是不对的,因为显然有人怀疑这笔钱是不诚实地获得的。


 
James Chen
I agree with your point that the Chinese government has to chase her to recover the monies in a process that is compliant with Canada's judiciary system.
 
However, it is likely that Qu sought to weaponize mob justice to exert pressure on the government to free her mother. Strangely, China is somehow expected to follow Canadian judiciary due process while Qu is free to circumvent the Chinese justice system arbitrarily and whimsically.
 
If Qu believes her mother is innocent and hopes to free her, she should launch an appeal in the Chinese Court. Supply sufficient evidence to challenge allegations of wrong-doing and perhaps, even win state compensation of wrongful conviction.
 
I agree Qu does not have to do anything. That is the wise thing to do. Stay low and hope her fans forget everything. Unfortunately though, she looks to be trying hard to leverage on her popularity and mob justice to free her mother the extra-judicial way while sitting lavishly on a slush fund in Canada, protected by the Canadian legal system while thrashing Chinese justice system.
 
Hypocrisy, no?

我同意你的观点,中国ZF必须在一个符合加拿大司法制度的程序中追讨她的钱。
 
然而,很有可能,曲婉婷会试图用暴民正义来向中国ZF施压,要求释放她的母亲。奇怪的是,中国在某种程度上会遵循加拿大的司法程序,而曲婉婷却可以随心所欲地绕过中国的司法系统。
 
如果曲认为自己的母亲是无辜的,并希望中国能释放她,她应该向中国法院提起上诉。提供足够的证据来质疑错误的指控,甚至可能赢得国家对错误定罪的赔偿。
 
我同意曲不必做任何事,这是明智之举。保持低调,希望她的粉丝们忘记一切。但不幸的是,她似乎在努力利用自己的人气搅动暴民司法,以司法外的方式施压要求释放她的母亲,而她却大手大脚地坐在加拿大的一家受加拿大法律体系保护的非法基金上,同时又在打击中国的司法系统。
 
很虚伪,不是吗?


 
Ed Tao
The world isn’t fair and what’s considered right and wrong changes with time. It’s likely someone’s job in China to recover that money or worst case, kidnap and bring her back to China to face the music. I don’t think it is likely unless she was actually involved in stealing the money. At the moment it just looks like she is enjoying the proceeds her mother has gifted her. Hence China will have to go through the international/Canadian courts to get that money back.
 
I doubt Wanting Qu’s celebrity influence is going to get her mother out of jail. If anything, she is playing the sympathy card and wants to give the impression she is good caring daughter. Personally, I wouldn’t think about it too much as there is little you can do to change the situation or benefit from it. You might as well focus your efforts on more useful things than be disgusted at people because there are probably millions more like this.

这个世界是不公平的,被认为对或者错的事情会随着时间的推移而改变。很可能有人在中国的工作就是追回这笔钱或者最坏的情况是绑架她,然后把她带回中国接受惩罚。但我认为这不太可能,除非她真的参与了偷钱。目前看来,她只是在享受她母亲带给她的收益。因此,中国将不得不通过国际/加拿大法庭来拿回这笔钱。
 
我怀疑,曲婉婷想要用她的名人影响力来让她母亲出狱。如果说有什么不同的话,那就是她在打同情牌,想给人一种她是个好女儿的印象。就我个人而言,我不会想太多,因为她几乎无法改变现状或从中受益。所以她不妨把精力放在更有用的事情上,而不是厌恶别人,因为这样的人可能还有数百万人。


 
Sirius Portnoi
Criminality sometimes has a pretty face. In the end, I have more important things to worry about and so do you. The universe has an interesting way of exacting justice.

罪犯有时有一张漂亮的脸。最后,我还有更重要的事情要担心,你也一样。宇宙有一种有趣的方式来追求正义。


 
Anne Privashe
Is anyone else irritated by the antiquated terminology used in this post and the lack of evidence?

有没有人因为这篇文章中的过时的术语和没有证据而恼怒?

 

Kathy Yang
Yeah, what so-called in the western’s eyes: lots of “rich” fled out of china…why? because government/CCP does not rule well, not respect human rights to fulfill wishes:).

是啊,西方人眼中所谓的“富人”大量逃离中国……为什么?因为中供执政不力,不尊重人权 :)。


 
Bayden Hiscocks
Look what her mother did was wrong, but expecting a child to hate their mother for a white collar crime is a little ridiculous?

你看,错事是她妈妈做的,但是期望一个孩子因为职务犯罪而恨他们的母亲不是很可笑吗?


 
Ding Hao
This is really shocking news. I do enjoy her music.
 
This story reminds me of a Singaporean Pastor who allegedly used church funds (he was charged and served time) to fund his wife’s music. She did do well on the billboards early on and I did enjoy her music too but when news broke out of her source of funds, a lot of people were shocked.

这真是令人震惊的消息。我确实喜欢她的音乐。
 
这个故事让我想起一位新加坡牧师,他用教会的资金(他被指控和服刑的罪名)资助他妻子的音乐。她妻子在舞台上的表现很好,我也很喜欢她的音乐,但当她资金来源的消息传出时,很多人都感到震惊。


 
Kaela Creighton
She is a present to us all. Thanks, China.

她(译注:指曲婉婷)是送给我们大家的礼物。谢谢,中国。


 
Fan Yang
The evidence for her mother’s corruption is enough for life sentence. But the court is still give her chance to return the stolen money.

她母亲腐Bai的证据足以判她终身监禁,但法院还是给了她归还赃款的机会。


 
Kunal Sarkar
good thing you didn’t tell her name, that would have been embarrassing for her

幸好你没说出她名字,不然那会让她很尴尬。


 
Jeremy Wong
But in an interview, she said, "thanks to my mother for satisfying my wishes from childhood to college, sending me to expensive music schools, and I don't care what others say or how she gets the money."
 
Which part of the above you don’t understand???

引用:但在一次采访中,她说:“感谢我母亲满足了我从童年到大学的愿望,把我送到昂贵的音乐学校,我不在乎别人怎么说,也不在乎她的钱哪来的。”
 
以上哪一部分你不明白???


 
Liang Huang

这个坑妈的丑陋女人的真实照片



 
Jamie Wang
She’s in Canada, and getting protected.

她在加拿大,受到加拿大的保护。


 
Nguyễn Thắng
then what? If your country wants, they can send an entire battalion there to arrest and bring her back to hang her family.

那又怎样?如果你的国家愿意,他们可以派一整个营去逮捕她,然后把她带回来绞死她的家人。


 
 
 


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    樱落网网友 : 国外那些到处开豪车的留学生哪个不是家里有不干不净的钱出去花的,这些人的国籍也不是中国,但是他们在国内的亲爹就联合起来搞了个《外国人永久条例》,结果被全中国人骂。 樱落网网友:精致利己主义者的背后,都有卖国的潜质,就像拥有灵根一样,与生俱来的的一般。 樱落网网友:这就是中国广大民众厌恶这个条例的原因。施法机关下放得太低廉了。

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    樱落网网友 : 国外那些到处开豪车的留学生哪个不是家里有不干不净的钱出去花的,这些人的国籍也不是中国,但是他们在国内的亲爹就联合起来搞了个《外国人永久条例》,结果被全中国人骂。 樱落网网友:精致利己主义者的背后,都有卖国的潜质,就像拥有灵根一样,与生俱来的的一般。

    2020-09-29 07:07:15 回复

  • 樱落网网友

    国外那些到处开豪车的留学生哪个不是家里有不干不净的钱出去花的,这些人的国籍也不是中国,但是他们在国内的亲爹就联合起来搞了个《外国人永久条例》,结果被全中国人骂。

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    她还等着*抓紧被枪毙呢,好申请政治避难,所以三天两头秀存在,提示一下大家*还没死

    2020-09-28 22:46:08 回复

  • 樱落网网友

    这个女人拿着中国人的钱在加拿大消费,加拿大人怎么舍得抓她呢

    2020-09-28 22:40:19 回复

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