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印度前陆军参谋长承认印军越界实控线次数多于解放军,印网友怒不可遏

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印度前陆军参谋长承认印军越界实控线次数多于解放军,印网友怒不可遏
 
本文译自《the india express》网站,原标题:V K Singh LAC remark counters India position, China says trespass clear
 
前一天,印度公路运输和公路国务部长辛格(retd)说,从现实中看,印度比中国更经常违反实际控制线(LAC)协议,这与印度的官方立场相矛盾。北京星期一声称,这位前陆军总司令的这番话是对印度频繁入侵行为”的“不经意的供认”。
 
中国外交部发言人汪文斌在回答记者提问时说:“这是印方不经意的表白。长期以来,印方频繁在边境地区进行非法侵入行为,企图侵占中国领土,不断制造争端和摩擦,这是造成中印边境紧张局势的根本原因。
 
汪文斌说:“我们敦促印方贯彻落实与中方达成的共识、协议和条约,以实际行动维护边境地区的和平与稳定。”
 
 
周日在Madurai,辛格在回答当地媒体的提问时曾表示,基于对实际控制线(LAC)的看法,中国曾经多次越线。“……你们谁也不知道,按照我们的估计,你们(记者)从未知道我们越过了基于自己主张(的实控线)多少次。辛格说:“如果解放军越过实控线10次,我们一定已经做了至少50次”。
 
辛格的言论与印度官方立场不符。去年6月,加尔万河谷事件发生后,20名印度士兵和人数不详的中国士兵丧生,外交部官方发言人阿努拉格·斯利瓦斯塔瓦Anurag Srivastava)曾表示,“印方从未在整个实际控制线(LAC)地区采取任何行动”。
 
 
“印军完全熟悉并严格遵守印中边境地区各区的实际控制线(LAC)。他们在实际控制线(LAC)地区巡逻了很长时间,包括加尔万山谷。印度方面建设的所有基础设施一直都是在实际控制线(LAC)地区自己一方。印度方面从未在整个实际控制线(LAC)地区采取任何行动,也从未试图单方面改变现状
 
周日,辛格声称在以前的案例中,中国军队会在印度一侧建立营地,只有在谈判后才部分返回。他说:“但是,现在的政府已经确保这不会发生”。他说:“中国正承受着压力,因为我们正坐在它不喜欢的地方(边境沿线)……中国人确实明白,如果出现问题,印度有能力反击”。
 
谈及辛格的言论,中国《环球时报》总编辑胡锡进在推特上写道:“……印度联邦国务部长、也是前陆军将领的V K·辛格无意中说出了中印边境局势的真相。是印度打破了边境现状,中国必须对此作出回应
 
辛格曾在2010年至2012年担任陆军总司令,但记者未能就此置评。印度外交部没有对辛格的评论作出官方回应。
 
 
 
评论




 
Fairmind
Foot-in-the-mouth? Why else would he admit transgression by Indian troops?

说漏嘴了?不然他为什么要承认印度军队的违法行为?


 
A Basu
This former chief of army staff, who had earlier cried about his date of birth being wrongly recorded in a vain effort to prolong his service period, has been a Sanghi loudmouth who puts his foot in his mouth repeatedly .... this time, he has contradicted YOU KNOW WHO and perhaps let the cat out of the bag?

这位前陆军参谋长,早前曾哭诉自己的出生日期被错误记录,妄图延长服役期,如今却成了一个大嘴巴,一次次说漏嘴.....


 
ForStrongAndProsperousIndia
India’s northern neighbour may pretend as much it can butit has been exposed as practitioner of expansionism. It is in illegal occupationof Indian territory from 1962 due to historic blunders by India. It has beenexecuting illegal / unethical projects in Indian territory under illegal occupationof Indias western neighbour from 1947. Further it has been collaborating inthe evil activity of terrorism sponsored by Indias western neighbour and hasbeen providing protection to terror masterminds. This problem has also arisenbecause Indias northern neighbour is in illegal occupation of Tibet. It hasbeen committing atrocities on Tibetans and many had to abandon their homeland toescape brutality and are living in India for decades.
 
J&K has been partof Indian civilisation for more than 20 centuries and is integral part of India.There has however been confusion in some quarters in India and outside Indiaabout erstwhile state of J&K. This is because of lack of due diligence andconfusion created by some historians. Some refer to erstwhile state of J&Kas Kashmir. Reality is J&K has three regions namely Ladakh, Jammu &Ladakh. The parts of J&K are under illegal occupation of western neighbour areclearly marked and is known as Line of Control (LOC). On the hand the parts ofJ&K under illegal occupation of northern neighbour are not clearly marked andis known as LAC. Some people wrongly assume it is a line. POJKL has to bevacated by western neighbour and CPL has to be vacated by northern neighbourfor reunification with India. Till this happens there is no scope of businessas usual by India with its two hostile neighbours.

印度的北部邻国可能会装作无辜,但它扩张主义者的本质已经被揭露。由于印度的历史性失误,它从1962年起就非法占领了印度领土。从1947年起,它一直在印度领土被西部邻国非法占领的情况下,在印度领土上执行非法/不道德的建设项目。此外,它还参与了由印度的西方邻国发起的邪恶的恐怖主义活动,并一直在为恐怖活动策划者提供保护。由于印度北部邻国非法占领XZ,这个问题也出现了。
 
20多个世纪以来,J&K地区一直是印度文明的一部分,也是印度文化的一个组成部分。然而,在印度和印度以外的一些地区,人们对克什米尔的过去感到困惑。事实上,J&K地区包含三个地区,即拉达克、查谟和克什米尔。J&K的部分地区被西部邻国非法占领,并有明显的标记,被称为实际控制线(LOC)。被北部邻国非法占领的J&K部分并没有明显的标记,被称为实际控制线(LAC),有些人错误地认为两者是一条线。西部邻国必须撤出巴控克什米尔,北部邻国必须撤出阿克赛钦,以便这些地区与印度统一。在这种情况发生之前,印度与两个敌对邻国没有任何照常行事的余地。


 
Himmat Patil
Which school did you study? Which college? Was the school or colleges were founded by your family? Or these were founded by present government? All those power plants refineries irrigation dams did not appear overnight. Today what position we are has been built over for so many years a so many people that are responsible for building the country. It is a different matter that some people keep advertising about there deeds other have died silently

你在哪所学校学习?哪所大学上学?这所学校是你家创办的吗?还是说这些都是现政府建立的?所有这些发电厂、炼油厂、灌溉大坝并不是一夜之间出现的。我们有今天的地位是多年建设的结果。有这么多人负责建设国家,但有些人不停地在广告上宣扬那些事迹,而有些人却默默地死去。


 
Himmat Patil
I agree with you to a great extent but your comments are on building nation. While, here, we are discussing, Congress' propensity to shoot its mouth vis a vis, Army.
 
Now on your comments. Literally, thousands of institutions carry the name of Nehru-Gandhi clan, that gives impression that only this family has built India from ashes, fact you yourself have stated. Currently, I am not aware that any institution has been named after Narendra Modi. You be the judge.

我在很大程度上同意你的意见,但你的意见是关于建设国家。在这里,我们讨论的是国会倾向于对军队的事乱发言。
 
现在说说你的评论。从字面上看,数以千计的机构都有尼赫鲁·甘地家族的名字,这给人的印象是只有这个家族在灰烬中重建了印度,事实上你自己也说过。目前,我不知道有任何以纳伦德拉·莫迪的名字命名的机构。


 
Latoori Singh
has he gone mad!!! does he know what he is talking about, he is helping china directly, is he following his saheb order? shame

他疯了吗!!!他知道他在说什么吗?他是在直接帮助中国,他是在遵循他的saheb要求吗?这是可耻。


 
TR Ramaswami
Transgression means you may have crossed the LAC but does not mean that you stayed put on the other side, established infrastructure and claimed that area as yours like China has done.

越界意味着你可能已经越过了实际控制线(LAC)地区,但并不意味着你留在了实际控制线(LAC)地区的另一边并建设了基础设施,就像中国做的那样。


 
Susanta Basu
Loud mouth often cause embarrassment to self but also to the country. Wonder if he has gone senile

他的大嘴巴常常给自己和国家带来尴尬,不知道他是不是老了。


 
RightlySaid
He should be striped off his citizenship for his non responsible comments

由于他不负责任的言论,他应该被剥夺公民资格。


 
Dharmalingam Chandran
Now that the act of  letting the cat out of the bag is over, the truthfulness of the country’s oft-repeated refrains before the international community that it had been a victim of Chinese aggression, will be put under serious test to prove. What is baffling for a common citizen of the country is whether such disclosures tantamount to  commit breach of provisions in the Official Secrets Act, 1923.
 
According to Sec.5 of the Act, whoever,  in possession inter alia of any information, the possession of which had come to the  holder having been entrusted in confidence to him by any person holding office under government or he has obtained such information or is having access to his position as a person who holds or has held such an office, discloses such a an information, is deemed to have committed the offence of doing wrongful communication, if it is proved that the disclosed information is an Official Secret. Will someone care  to explain ? 

既然泄密的行为已经发生,那么之前印度在国际社会面前一再表示,它是中国侵略的受害者,其真实性将受到严峻考验。对于这个国家的普通公民来说,令人困惑的是,这种披露是否等于违反了1923年《官方机密法》的规定。
 
根据该法第5节,任何人,尤其是持有任何信息的人,其持有的信息是由任何在政府任职的人秘密委托给他的,或者他已经获得了此类信息,披露该信息,经证明属于“国家机密”的,应被视为犯错误通信罪。有人愿意解释一下吗?


 
Dharmalingam Chandran
Stunning disclosure by the Hon’ble Minister that India too had transgressed the LAC in multiple proportions in comparison to China  based on its own perception on the LAC. As the former Army General, he is more qualified to say so and his words also must be authentic. But, will not such disclosure weaken the case of India before international fora that China alone has been in the habit of engaging in aggressive transgression acts across the LAC and that India is a helpless  victim ? What impacts will such disclosure have on India's standing as a responsible player in international  relations ? If similar disclosure had been done by any citizen of the country even  in a fit of jocular mood and in a whispering tone, he or she must have been hounded out and labelled as anti-National” by this time.

根据印度对实际控制线(LAC)地区的看法,该部长惊人地披露,与中国相比印度也在多个方面违反了实际控制线(LAC)地区的规定。作为前陆军将领,他有资格这样说,他的话也应该是真实的。但是,这种披露是否会削弱印度在国际论坛上的主张,即中国在整个实际控制线(LAC)地区都有从事侵略性违法行为的习惯,而印度是一个无助的受害者?这种披露将对印度作为国际关系负责任者的地位产生什么影响?如果换做这个国家的任何一个其他的公民,即使是以一种开玩笑的口吻说过类似的话,那么他或她一定会被赶出去,并被贴上了“反民族”的标签。


 
A.s. Malhotra
Ministers of ruling party under BJP should make their statement in a very diplomatic and matured manner especially against China and Pakistan over border disputes. It has been evident they try to manipulate those statements cleverely and use them to downsize the image of our country worldwide.

印度执政党人民党的部长们应该以非常灵活和成熟的方式发表声明,特别是针对中国及巴基斯坦边界争端。很明显,他们试图巧妙地操纵这些言论,并利用这些言论降低我国在世界范围内的形象。


 
Soothiyan
Actually this chap clearly said something which is not true. Gave Chinese a great chance to bash India. When Namo baba said ghusa hai-ghus aya hai-ghusa hua hai nonsense, the Chinese didn't miss that chance too

事实上,这家伙说了一些不真实的话,给了中国人一个大好机会来抨击印度。当莫迪胡说八道时,中国人也没有错过这个机会。


 
Udaynath
Is it so simple? This is not a conflict between primary kids. Every statement from govt heads can have ramifications at the highest level. What is the next round of talks between india and China going to be?

有这么简单吗?这不是小学生之间的冲突,政府首脑的每一项声明都可能在最高层面产生影响。想想印度和中国的下一轮会谈将是什么?


 
Anmol
Have they sold our territory to Chinese ??
 
Earlier NM had announced that Chinese soldier did not entered our territory when 20 of our brave soldiers were killed by Chinese in June 2020. Now this guy is saying we have transgressed to Chinese side.
 
What does NM & VK wants to say or do ??

他们把我们的领土卖给中国人了吗??
 
早些时候莫迪曾宣布,中国士兵没有进入我国领土,而当时我国20名勇敢的士兵在2020年6月被中国人杀害。现在这家伙说我们违反了与中国方面的规定。
 
莫迪&辛格将军到底想说什么或想做什么??


 
Edwin Antony
This big motor mouth cow d ung headed minister is same like his boss. In order to please the iliterate bhakts he had put the country down. China now occupied 1000 sqkm of eastern ladakh without a war and putting blame on india for transgressions.

这个大嘴巴牛头部长和他的老板一样,为了取悦印度的文盲,他放倒了整个国家。中国现在在没有战争的情况下占领了拉达克东部1000平方公里的土地,并指责印度的违法行为。


 
Soothiyan
This motormouth doesn't understand what he's speaking about. His mouth(s) should be shut in best interests of the nation.

这个喋喋不休的疯子不明白他在说什么。为了国家的最大利益,他应该闭嘴。


 
Irfan
Earlier NM had scored self goal by announcing, Na koi Ghusa hai aur Na koi Ghusa Hua hai. Now this guy has made senseless comment. We are simply strengthening Chinese argument.

早前莫迪说中国士兵没有进入印度领土攻入了一球,现在这家伙发表了毫无意义的评论,我们只是在加强中国的论点。


 





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  • liangys

    樱落网网友 : 看印度网民的评论,很明白的说明了一个问题。那就是——印度的网民们,非常清楚得知道他们的政府和媒体,在边界争端中撒谎,并且他们非常清楚地知道这样撒谎和挑起争端的目的和事实,那为什么他们还要继续谎言?因为他们把这种撒谎和挑起争端当作了国与国之间博弈的手段。一个历史上屡屡被其他文明毁灭的乌合之众们并没有认识到谎言对于一个大国而言的伤害是多么大。正像印度的先贤甘地所说:「为什么(我们)印度人的境遇这么惨?为什么?为什么?因为我们受过的苦难还不够!」如果这个民族,不能从其他伟大国家的历史中学习到真正有益的东西,而只是在被灌输的虚假宣传中领悟糟粕的话,那么在人类进化的历史上,这个民族其实已经没有存在的理由了。 liangys:最近在幻想小说里看了一下印度神灵科普,发现真的刷新三观了。作者小结了一下,觉得三观如此清奇的国家,到底怎么做到不亡国的呢?我也想知道,之后想起来,好像印度就没用自己力量立国吧?它建国简直是天时地利人和的体现啊!

    2021-02-25 11:58:03 回复

  • 樱落网网友

    樱落网网友 : 这人真倒霉。明明是军方专门选出来给民族情绪降温 ,因为这仗实在不敢打。 樱落网网友:黑三想打你,就造谣说你入侵了,不想打就说其实你没入侵,这是把咱们当软柿子啊,想怎么捏就怎么捏. 樱落网网友:打不打仗取决于投入产出利益和局势,别人造谣嘴炮一下就按不住火气就打打杀杀的,我觉得那是蠢货才干的事情

    2021-02-13 18:11:46 回复

  • 樱落网网友

    樱落网网友 : 阿三是真的低智商,只要话不中听先一顿狂喷,也不管人家说的是真话还是假话。这个民族没救了,因为完全没事反思和自省的能力。 樱落网网友:谁也不要指望这帮彻底的唯心主义文盲,能做点什么。

    2021-02-13 15:35:38 回复

  • 樱落网网友

    阿三是真的低智商,只要话不中听先一顿狂喷,也不管人家说的是真话还是假话。这个民族没救了,因为完全没事反思和自省的能力。

    2021-02-12 13:29:37 回复

  • 樱落网网友

    国小而不自卑,力小而辱大邻,可亡也。

    2021-02-11 22:43:19 回复

  • 樱落网网友

    既然不讲道理那就力量对决,力量微博那就跪下,不然等待你们的就是消灭。

    2021-02-11 22:41:42 回复

  • 樱落网网友

    阅读起来好困难

    2021-02-11 21:16:46 回复

  • 樱落网网友

    这人是印度政府的吹哨人

    2021-02-11 19:29:05 回复

  • 樱落网网友

    印度人的低智商以及国民操性随时暴露,遮都遮不住。

    2021-02-11 19:00:09 回复

  • 樱落网网友

    看印度网民的评论,很明白的说明了一个问题。那就是——印度的网民们,非常清楚得知道他们的政府和媒体,在边界争端中撒谎,并且他们非常清楚地知道这样撒谎和挑起争端的目的和事实,那为什么他们还要继续谎言?因为他们把这种撒谎和挑起争端当作了国与国之间博弈的手段。一个历史上屡屡被其他文明毁灭的乌合之众们并没有认识到谎言对于一个大国而言的伤害是多么大。正像印度的先贤甘地所说:「为什么(我们)印度人的境遇这么惨?为什么?为什么?因为我们受过的苦难还不够!」如果这个民族,不能从其他伟大国家的历史中学习到真正有益的东西,而只是在被灌输的虚假宣传中领悟糟粕的话,那么在人类进化的历史上,这个民族其实已经没有存在的理由了。

    2021-02-11 17:16:46 回复

  • 樱落网网友

    印度实行的是所谓的“低烈度战争策略”,一边入侵中国边境线,一边在国际上造谣博同情反咬中国入侵印度,一边拿到实际好处,一边给对手扣黑锅,这其实是很精明的战略。印度作为嘴炮冠军,嘴上跑的是宇宙飞船,就是欺负中国在国际上是哑巴发不出声音,或者发声了别人也不信,以己之长,攻敌之短,谁还敢说印度人智商低?印度民族的特点就是嘴巴厉害,狡辩诡辩无人能敌,长于空谈而短于实干,也幸好如此,如果它有中国这么实干,那印度真要冲出银河系了,super power,Jai jaid,哈哈

    2021-02-11 15:37:59 回复

  • 樱落网网友

    在这个国度,说真话是会被群起攻之的,可能被贴上“反民族”的标签。因为他们一直生错在一环套一环的谎言里

    2021-02-11 14:53:10 回复

  • 樱落网网友

    樱落网网友 : 这人真倒霉。明明是军方专门选出来给民族情绪降温 ,因为这仗实在不敢打。 樱落网网友:黑三想打你,就造谣说你入侵了,不想打就说其实你没入侵,这是把咱们当软柿子啊,想怎么捏就怎么捏.

    2021-02-11 14:39:04 回复

  • 樱落网网友

    *的德性就是这样,低等动物是没有人类的高等情感的,它们不会有羞耻心,不会有正义感,只能感受到痛觉,所以不需废话,往死里打就对了.

    2021-02-11 14:37:00 回复

  • 樱落网网友

    这人真倒霉。明明是军方专门选出来给民族情绪降温 ,因为这仗实在不敢打。

    2021-02-11 13:55:19 回复

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